All these sprite comics.....

[CereliaDrakon]

I, myself, am a retired Pokemon Spriter, but I'm very annoyed with all the Sprite Comics. Barely any have a story at all, and if they do, the storyline is just a jumble and mess of cliches and garbage. And if people want us to look at their sprites so bad, why use a comic hosting site instead of an image hoster like photobucket? Tbh, barely any of the sprites in these comics are decent. There should just be one for each fandom, instead of a million spamming the "just updated" section.
Okay, maybe it's just a matter of complete dislike. Although, as stated by the smackjeeves TOS, the content you upload must be legal in your country. I've seen many Digimon comics, and I know for sure they do not allow their game artwork to be used.
So, anyone else agree on how annoying they are?

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Sprite comics have been around since the dawn of the internet....

Most sprite comic makers sprite furries. A.K.A, stealing Segas stuff, giving it new hair then claiming its their own character. None of these people realize how stupid it is.
Who thinks Admin should go on a sprite comic deleting rampage? I DO!
For every good sprite comic, there are like 10 bad ones. Its the lost rule of the internet.

I would say much more, nut I dont feel liek it....

[mitchellbravo]

a) I think this is in the wrong forum
b) We have this discussion several times a year, but about yaoi

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a) I think this is in the wrong forum
b) We have this discussion several times a year, but about yaoi

Lol yaoi. Why do people think this crap is so great?

[CereliaDrakon]

Huh, I just found out about the horrors of sprite comics when I joined here.
Actually, instead of constantly deleting sprite comics, the TOS should be updated and no material without full, written permission should be used.
I really don't think Sega or Pokemon and etc. would care enough to even reply. (And sorry if this was in the wrong forum D:)

[robybang]

You could probably say the same for yaoi (cliche, low quality, flood the Just Updated section, possibly violate TOS), but the fact is, neither are going anywhere. Both make up a sizable majority of the site's user base, and are so accustomed to being SJ's resident strawmen of disgruntled comickers that they'd cry persecution at the slightest attempt at reigning them in, even if the Admin is in the right (like when some spriter got banned for flaming a comic and a bunch of his friends flamed Admin in revenge. So they all got banned, and the spriting community thought this was some sort of spriter Holocaust. This thread where yaoi artists defended a comic graphically depicting underage rape and thought that blankd was going to come down on their kawaii desu bishies next).

tl;dr: Yaoi and sprites won't be going anywhere.

[Bliss]

How DARE you! I am a sprite comic creater myself, and I enjoy the various types of sprite comics. You creating a topic like this isn't fair to people who put a lot of time and effort into their sprite comics. The only thing I dislike are the sprite comics that are made bad intentionally.

[mitchellbravo]

Ah, swift edit there. I too shall edit my response.


Sprites abound, some suck, some people like them. Yaoi comics abound, some suck, some people like them. The arguments against each are practically parallel. It's just that one's tainted with gross boy cooties and the other's tainted with gross girl cuties. I know there are plenty of female spriters and male yaoi artists, but that's what it comes down to to me- "Barbies are stupid!!" "No, Hot Wheels are stupid!"

[Durvin]

Are there any BL sprite comics? Like, a stirring, emotional tale of Sonic having teh buttseckz? Don't answer that, I'm sure there are plenty.

Seriously, though, where did that particular sense of humor come from that seems to be in so many sprite comics? You know what I mean--

green Sonic: "hey You lets fight !!!!!!!"
purple Knuckles: "OK!"
(THEY FIGHT)
purple Knuckles: "oops my power fire dynamo mega thunder boom punch boom exploded the earth!"
green Sonic: "you sukkkkkk!!!!!"
blue Amy: "omg your both secksy!"
both: "YEH!"

I will say that that was really easy to write. My comics take at least a few hours to write each update; I made that up in, like, a minute. I think the reason there are so many awful sprite comics out there is that if you've decided you want to make a comic but don't want to put any energy into it whatsoever, you can get the sprites pretty easily. That said, I would love to know why it's almost always Sonic, or occasionally Mega Man or Kirby. Why no Earthworm Jim fanfics? Why no Bad Dudes Expanded Universe? I'd read that. "We're the only dudes bad enough to travel into the past and prevent Master-D from using the Chaos Emeralds to assassinate FDR!"

[Lickspittle]

Are there any BL sprite comics? Like, a stirring, emotional tale of Sonic having teh buttseckz? Don't answer that, I'm sure there are plenty.

Seriously, though, where did that particular sense of humor come from that seems to be in so many sprite comics? You know what I mean--

green Sonic: "hey You lets fight !!!!!!!"
purple Knuckles: "OK!"
(THEY FIGHT)
purple Knuckles: "oops my power fire dynamo mega thunder boom punch boom exploded the earth!"
green Sonic: "you sukkkkkk!!!!!"
blue Amy: "omg your both secksy!"
both: "YEH!"

I will say that that was really easy to write. My comics take at least a few hours to write each update; I made that up in, like, a minute. I think the reason there are so many awful sprite comics out there is that if you've decided you want to make a comic but don't want to put any energy into it whatsoever, you can get the sprites pretty easily. That said, I would love to know why it's almost always Sonic, or occasionally Mega Man or Kirby. Why no Earthworm Jim fanfics? Why no Bad Dudes Expanded Universe? I'd read that. "We're the only dudes bad enough to travel into the past and prevent Master-D from using the Chaos Emeralds to assassinate FDR!"

Second.

Nail on the head, I think. Kids sit down and think, "I'm going to make comics!" Then after 20 minutes, they're like, "Drawing comics takes too long. I'm just going to use someone else's drawings instead, then I can focus all of my time on writing!" 20 minutes later: "Writing takes too long! But I need to update, since the internet can go on without bad sprite comics... I know! Explode the earth and bring in a differently colored character from another game!"

I know it's pointless to make these arguments, but it's pointless to make sprite comics. If you want to use someone else's characters and universe, and adapt it to your own bad writing, please make your way to fanfiction.net where you belong.

[AnXjak]

Ah, swift edit there. I too shall edit my response.

Sprites abound, some suck, some people like them. Yaoi comics abound, some suck, some people like them. The arguments against each are practically parallel. It's just that one's tainted with gross boy cooties and the other's tainted with gross girl cuties. I know there are plenty of female spriters and male yaoi artists, but that's what it comes down to to me- "Barbies are stupid!!" "No, Hot Wheels are stupid!"

^ This.

I also like how everybody instantly thinks that all sprites are bad.

I will now direct your attention to a related image;
http://thespritersshowcase3.smackjeeves ... of-worlds/

Please, do tell me how that is from an existing game. Go on, and tell us how bad it is. (Y'know aside from the fact that is terrifying in every way ever.)

On a slightly less verbose note; seeing as how nobody is gaining any sort of money/profit from their 'derpy sprite comics'
Why care? This kind of argument happens all of the time, all suspiciously too often. People just like different and probably stupid things.
I'm also not particularly sure on this, but I've heard that Sega thinks of the Sega Spriting community as their own free advertising thing.
Even then, some people (myself included) only emulate something close to Sega's style, as in do the sprite-work from the ground up. (I usually deviate, its fun.)

In all honesty, I'm not bothered enough to care 100% about this topic. Jus' saying, some people judge and hate too often, which relates to what Mitch said.
Also, what happened to "you have to start somewhere"?

[sulfurbunny]

Making a genuinely good comic is just as difficult with sprites as it is with any other medium. I think there have been some very good sprite based comics. I was a big fan of Eight Bit Theater and Kid Radd when they were running, and while Kid Radd was scratch-built, 8BT relied on ripped sprites, and it worked. What they both had in common was clarity and good writing.

I think the problem is that the comparative ease of making a sprite comic means the ratio of crap to good stuff is more skewed. I check sprite comics when I see them, but I haven't seen anything yet on SJ that impressed me. Still, I hope the good ones are out there. Maybe I just haven't found them yet.

[Samurai pizza hedgehog]

I lost my interest in making sprite comics a while ago. I admit that there a tons of bad sprite comics with unoriginal plots, characters etc. but there are good comics like Survival Fan Characters and Two Evil Scientists.

[Jops]

I've seen sprite comics that are actually wonderful. Kid Radd, just to name one.
Unfortunately, there's way too many sprite comics relying on the "established videogame characters doing random mayhem" concept, which, let's face it, it's a very poor concept to begin with, to make the sound of "good sprite comic" almost feel like a contradiction.


Personally, I've made my policy not to even bother looking at sprite comics that use of unoriginal characters and art.
If the author can't go trough the trouble of developing his own style, i don't expect him to actually come up with any good plot or story.

Maybe I'll miss an 8-bit Theater by sorting sprite comics like this, but it'll spare me from looking a loads of unimaginative crap in the desperate hope of finding that one rare gem.

[Koikolida]

I'm new. I saw the forums. I never wanted to participate because I bias-ly assumed that everyone was going to be biased. But I feel like giving my opinion for the first time since I've joined this site.

I honestly both agree and find it annoying that a lot of the comics are either sprite comics or yaoi comics (and I'm sometimes disappointed that I can't find both). That's not to say I have a personal dislike against either genre (especially yaoi; can't live without my yaoi), but reading a lot of the ones that flood the Just Updated...thing, I gave up finding any ones that are trying to be original - or at least creative - after one day. There are a lot of overused plots with different names and, concerning sprite comics especially, characters that just randomly get introduced and the universe adjusts itself accordingly, as if the character was long established before.

Again, I don't have a personal dislike against the two most popular genres to write/draw about in SJ. But I agree that there's too much of either, it's hard to find gems hidden in those piles somewhere. And it feels a bit unfair that, as long as you slap on a sprite comic or BL label on your comic - boom! Hundred fans. I get confused thinking, "But it barely started!" while other comics that have been newly created or new ones are already on their way to 10 comic pages/strips - some look like they have a lot of potential, but apparently it's not good enough as this one comic where this guy is totally going to fall for this other one or this other comic has video game characters doing wacky stuff. Only rarely have I actually seen the opposite happen (an original comic having a lot of supporters because of it's potential). It's like majority of the user-base don't even give other comics with stories non-sprite and/or non-BL related a chance, maybe partly because of that easily exploitable "If it's something I don't like [before I read it], I absolutely won't read it" rule.

That's my opinion, but I'm going to acknowledge that I am and might not be completely right. I've only been here for... two weeks? And this is the first time I've participated in the forum. I'm gonna wait this out, but throw in my thoughts too.

Just to feel like I contributed for once.