Least favorite Jump manga?

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Re: Least favorite Jump manga?

Postby Advertisement » January 19th, 2012, 7:41 pm

Twinkiesama wrote:2. Prince of Tennis. I don't think it has nearly the same level of cred in the West. (Heck, Westerners don't care about sports manga in general!) What could have made Prince of Tennis work for me is more extended breaks between the non-stop tennis matches which could focus on developing characters or other subplots. The later volumes eventually get BADLY repetitive...

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Re: Least favorite Jump manga?

Postby blankd » January 19th, 2012, 10:42 pm

James-James wrote:Hyper-stylised was the first word I pulled from my ass. :V What I should say is that modern series, on the most part, feel cleaner and slicker, where-as Toriko doesn't. The scan quality admittedly helps with the grittier feel, but so does the choice of line-art style and how liberally ink is used to define characters and scenery.

Boy are you in for a surprise for the later/current chapters.

Guess it's gone to being like the rest of herd 8V.
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Re: Least favorite Jump manga?

Postby James-James » January 20th, 2012, 3:36 am

That's pretty depressing. :c
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Re: Least favorite Jump manga?

Postby Mr. Henry » January 20th, 2012, 8:19 am

James-James wrote:I haven't read much of Toriko but, from what I know, it's a story about big-ass grown men eating the fuck out of big-ass animals and enjoying themselves (i.e. no kawaii bishie boys running around and no shonen-esque angst - tropes that are quite popular with the magazine's target audience nowadays). The art style fits perfectly and isn't really similar to Toriyama's style at all so I don't know where you get that from. If you're trying to say that the aesthetic of the art style is bad (i.e. that the style in general looks pretty gritty and that most characters' facial/bodily features are more defined - a trait you find more often in a lot of classic 80's-90's action shonen) then I think you're missing the point of the series as a whole. It's a big dumb "serious" manga that doesn't actually take itself seriously at all (whilst avoiding falling into BoBoBo's "parody all the other manga" territory), and there are few, if any, little kids running around (unlike in pretty much every other shonen manga except maybe Bleach for the most part barring Hitsugaya?) for the targeted audience (i.e. teenage boys) to grow attached to. It's basically the anti-shonen, as far as Shonen Jump series go, and feels more like it would fit in very well in the comic's 80's-90's archive somewhere alongside, say, Fist of the North Star and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure. Having Toriko being drawn in the same clean, modern inking/toning style of your standard Shonen Jump series would remove a lot of the impact it carries when you read the first bunch of chapters and oh fuck that huge ass guy just karate chopped a 100 foot long crocodile to death!!

Seriously, imagine this sequence as if it was drawn by somebody like, oh, I don't know, Akira Amano or somebody whose style is too clean and precise and hyper-stylised. Yawn.



Yep, I'm offically sold on Toriko, that manga's insane! The main character somehow reminds me of Yujiro Hanma from Baki the Grappler, though.
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Re: Least favorite Jump manga?

Postby BestestShirt » January 20th, 2012, 9:36 am

Seeing Naruto and Bleach nowadays just makes me sad. Most of the problems with them have already been mentioned but I'd like to bring up Naruto's art. Theres something about Shippuden's art that I just can't stand. I think that even if it had gotten boring and repetetive and broken down all of its morals, if the art had kept him cute and young it wouldn't have been so bad.

On the whole Toriko thing, I won't try and defend it because honestly I can't. It has some definite problems and elements that I can see turning off a lot of readers/watchers. But I think its the things that turn other people away that are the reasons I like it.

Also Rosario, I could see that story being done a lot better than it was. And I have. Several times. I don't mind the vampire thing or the overused idea thing, I just don't think it was executed as well as those other typical harem stories.
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Re: Least favorite Jump manga?

Postby Seven Rain » January 20th, 2012, 10:02 am

Dude, when did Toriko fans start existing on SJ? Brofists. All of you.
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Seriously I was beginning to think I'd forever be the only fan of Toriko 'round here! Though admittedly I watch the anime instead of reading the manga, but still... It's DBZ and FotNS meet Monster Hunter! That shit needs more love than it gets. Speaking of which I need to get caught up, badly. I haven't watched any new episodes since starting my Summer job last year.



Oh, and sorry for the derailment. Can't really comment on the matter since I watch anime over manga, and am not even familiar with some Jump series.
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Re: Least favorite Jump manga?

Postby RainbowAurora » January 27th, 2012, 10:48 pm

I would have to say The Prince of Tennis. I remember when Toonami showed one of its episodes, and it was one of the most boring things they'd ever shown, so I have even less interest in the manga.

Yu Yu Hakusho, because it confirmed to the shonen cliches early on.

Yu-Gi-Oh!, because it's so commercially-driven.

I don't read One Piece either because the art is so... weird.

I actually do kind of like Toriko from the preview I saw of it in Shonen Jump. I like the premise. The art is not hideous; the characters are varied, the art is detailed overall, and the food itself is gorgeous.
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Re: Least favorite Jump manga?

Postby RTSSH21 » January 27th, 2012, 11:16 pm

I hated One Piece, Naruto, D-Grayman, Psyren, Prince of Tennis, Bleach, all the YuGiOh manga that's GX or furthur. Anything else previously mentioned in this topic were things I liked or never heard of.

YuYuHakusho and Death Note were amazing, I've re-read them so many times. The only reason I even LOOK at Shounen Jump magazine anymore is because it'd be cool to see something as good as those two again, but unfortunately, everything new I've seen has all been crap or so uninteresting I never even flipped a page of it yet. SJ is dying the most boring death I can imagine, and it kind of saddens me. Now I have to resort to western comics for a good read instead of the other way around.

Then again, maybe it might be that I can't handle 'good' characters. I liked Kira, thusly I liked Death Note. I liked Yusuke [delinquents FTW], thusly I liked YuYuHakusho. Since most new protagonists now-a-days are happy-go-lucky, super-uber-good, or overpowered with love, I just gave up.

Before someone brings it up, that means yes, I did like Bleach. Before it was infected with the desease known as filler. YuGiOh was the exception to the Protagonist rule, but I was far too young to know my version of quality back then.
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Postby Troll » January 28th, 2012, 12:21 am

Least favorite Jump manga?

One Piece.
Bleach.

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From what game is that infinite bro fist?
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Re: Least favorite Jump manga?

Postby RyoSoulreaper » January 29th, 2012, 12:42 am

RTSSH21 wrote:I did like Bleach. Before it was infected with the desease known as filler.

I never understood this logic in Manga. If Manga is canon how is it filler?

Maybe my definition of Filler is warped but Filler to me is a arc that either interupts a huge arc of the plot or just ignores the plot all together and is an arc of it's own and is not canon or shouldn't be.
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Postby Seven Rain » January 29th, 2012, 12:53 am

Troll wrote:@Seven Rain
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Asura's Wrath.
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Re: Least favorite Jump manga?

Postby redandblack64 » January 29th, 2012, 1:11 am

RyoSoulreaper wrote:
RTSSH21 wrote:I did like Bleach. Before it was infected with the desease known as filler.

I never understood this logic in Manga. If Manga is canon how is it filler?

Maybe my definition of Filler is warped but Filler to me is a arc that either interupts a huge arc of the plot or just ignores the plot all together and is an arc of it's own and is not canon or shouldn't be.

It isn't filler he's/she's talking about, but padding, when it takes excruciatingly long for anything to actually happen. When 300 chapters of story could easily be told in 100 by chopping off the fat or padding.
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Re: Least favorite Jump manga?

Postby RyoSoulreaper » January 29th, 2012, 1:16 am

redandblack64 wrote:
RyoSoulreaper wrote:
RTSSH21 wrote:I did like Bleach. Before it was infected with the desease known as filler.

I never understood this logic in Manga. If Manga is canon how is it filler?

Maybe my definition of Filler is warped but Filler to me is a arc that either interupts a huge arc of the plot or just ignores the plot all together and is an arc of it's own and is not canon or shouldn't be.

It isn't filler he's/she's talking about, but padding, when it takes excruciatingly long for anything to actually happen. When 300 chapters of story could easily be told in 100 by chopping off the fat or padding.

Well that makes sense. Prolonged set ups plague Jump Manga.
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