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what do you think of this?

Postby Izumi Hikaru » August 16th, 2012, 2:39 am

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Re: what do you think of this?

Postby ApaFox » August 16th, 2012, 2:59 am

Uuuuh.... neat?

I 'unno. I'm not doing much thinking at the moment.
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Re: what do you think of this?

Postby JoKeRcologne » August 16th, 2012, 4:20 am

Uhm.... what is this now?
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Re: what do you think of this?

Postby Izumi Hikaru » August 16th, 2012, 6:21 am

Should've explained this earlier. What I meant is what do you guys think seeing those other comics having negative critiques. Wouldn't it hurt the author when they see it?
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Re: what do you think of this?

Postby eishiya » August 16th, 2012, 7:36 am

Are you talking about the entire blog, or just the one specific post? If the latter, link to the specific post! The front page of the confessions tumblr does change, afterall. Also, make your topic title more specific. It's uselessly generic right now.


Overall tumblr: I think most of the confessions are worded politely and the negative ones all have valid advice that the author in question could and should use. I've learned a few things from reading them, and I'm not even the one they're talking about.


That one confession on long Guest crits: I also wish people would stay logged in when posting those crits, but the thing is... if it wasn't for whiny fans of the comics in question, they probably would stay logged in! The times I've seen those kinds of anon crits, the creators tended to take them rather well, it's almost always the fans that try to white-knight that end up causing drama. The confession sounds like it was also written by one of these white knights (""even if they're not my comics").
I don't know which comic the confession is for, but I suspect it's from one of the recent rush of long guest comments on yaoi comics. I haven't read all of those crits and don't know all the comics that were commented on, but the few I've read were largely spot-on, if a bit roughly-phrased and overly-detailed.
I believe that anyone posting their comic online and free to the public should be ready both for asskissing and asskicking. If they don't want the latter, then it's their responsibility to state "No critique please" somewhere obvious. These long critiques don't seem to be posted to start drama (it's easy to start drama with far less work than such a long crit that requires reading the entire comic in question). These guest critiques, I believe, are made with the genuine intent to help the author. However, it's the author's responsibility to use that information. As I said, most of them do, and it's the people who aren't even involved in creating the work that get uppity about it.

I've had a similar situation, and I've also had a "fan" try to white-knight for me. I had the fan stop, because the critique was valid and it was not the fan's place to "defend" me from something they thought was mean. I asked for feedback, so let me have my damn feedback. Most comics I've seen that get these long guest crits also ask for feedback. In some cases, these authors don't realize what they're asking for, but I think they have only themselves to blame.

In any case, white-knighting is a stupid practice that the authors need to weed out.

As for those creators who really don't want critique:
I have no respect for them as artists and do not read their works, personally. Though I seldom offer critique on comics unless I see/get a critique request (precisely to avoid the situations described above), I have no interest in reading a comic that's pretty much guaranteed not to improve in reasonable time. In most cases, an artist who doesn't want critique is an artist who doesn't care to get better. Even critique on finished/old comics can be useful (as long as it's general and not nitpicks). Why should I read a comic that won't get better? Most of the time, comic creators who don't want crit aren't even good to begin with (at least, I've never seen a good artist/writer who is averse to crit).
In short, I stay away from their comics, and they don't get crit from me. Everybody's happy.
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Re: what do you think of this?

Postby DragonHat » August 16th, 2012, 9:15 am

mmm confession blogs are fun i like them :)

and this seems like a good, drama-free confession blog. some of these are really relatable, too.
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Re: what do you think of this?

Postby mosama » August 16th, 2012, 10:35 am

Fun to read! My favorite post ->
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Re: what do you think of this?

Postby walkin_talkin_apocolyps » August 16th, 2012, 7:06 pm

aw yeah i like smackjeeves confessions! i follow them but i feel guilty sometimes when i reblog them >.,< cuz sometimes their confessions are just so true XD

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Re: what do you think of this?

Postby Snuffan » August 17th, 2012, 5:43 am

I think the format of the confessions is cluttered, dull, and messy. I like the confessions, but reading them is an eyesore. I wouldn't have banners as a background, and if I did I would have it blurred out in some way. Preferrably not though, because the text boxes just blend into everything. The text is also poorly aligned and there are random capitalisations in the in SmackJeevesConfessions wich makes my skin crawl... And the (c) bothers me too. I don't know, just everything about looking at and reading these make me cringe. I do read them occasionally though. I follow SJC, but I usually end up scrolling past them.

And I do believe that some are made by the submitters, but seriously. MOST confessions are cluttered and badly done, and it just makes them a pain to read. It doesn't help that the actual format is bad, too.

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eishiya wrote:I believe that anyone posting their comic online and free to the public should be ready both for asskissing and asskicking. If they don't want the latter, then it's their responsibility to state "No critique please" somewhere obvious.


I see it as a given that people want critique, unless an artist specifically say they don't want any. I throw critique a bit wherever I go, and if an artist isn't okay with that they'd have to tell me. I mean, artists can want critique without specifically asking for it.

I pretty much share your opinion. While I don't specifically not respect artists that avoid critique, I see them as lesser artist. They're still artist, just not one of the better ones. Being a good artist involves more thing that just drawing prurrty things.
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Re: what do you think of this?

Postby Vitotamito » August 17th, 2012, 12:07 pm

Man, it seems like everyone's bringing this one up nowadays.

I don't like the Tumblr because it hasn't mentioned Chelsea and Kitty.
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Re: what do you think of this?

Postby TerminalMontage » August 17th, 2012, 5:38 pm

Vitotamito wrote:I don't like the Tumblr because it hasn't mentioned Chelsea and Kitty.


They don't talk about me either. I hate tumblr!
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Re: what do you think of this?

Postby Snuffan » August 17th, 2012, 5:39 pm

TerminalMontage wrote:They don't talk about me either. I hate tumblr!


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Re: what do you think of this?

Postby ApaFox » August 17th, 2012, 6:18 pm

Snuffan wrote:
TerminalMontage wrote:They don't talk about me either. I hate tumblr!


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Re: what do you think of this?

Postby Sonic-ock » August 17th, 2012, 6:45 pm

Snuffan wrote:
TerminalMontage wrote:They don't talk about me either. I hate tumblr!


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The art is TOO spectacular!!! It's ding dang fabulous! I've said this already.
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Re: what do you think of this?

Postby RyoSoulreaper » August 17th, 2012, 8:04 pm

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