Admin wrote:I see what you're saying. If people find the recommendation engine to be a good way of finding new comics, they may go to the front page less for that purpose, and so new comics will be put at a disadvantage. But if the recommendation engine does a better job of helping people find the comics they like than the front page, then I think it has added value to Smack Jeeves. And I don't think people will stop looking at the front page altogether, because it is still a good source of finding new comics out of the blue.
Even so, I don't think you can just upload a comic to Smack Jeeves and expect it to become wildly popular, even if it is very good. At least initially, you need to do some work promoting your comic, if you want to get more fans. In addition, your comic needs to be "ready" for promotion before you start promoting it. For example, if you have under 30 or so pages, its probably not time to start promoting your comic, because there isn't going to be enough content there to keep most people hooked.
Pyroman wrote:I think by way of how new this system is, and it's current trend of popularity, you are underestimating the amount of users not present on the board, and overestimating the advantages of the system itself. In essence the recommendation system offers about 10 comics on rotation regularly. If I come back next month, or in two weeks maybe I will have a largely different selection, but day to day I will receive only the same comics as recommendations. As such, if I am looking for new comics I will still go to the front page, or use the various search filters to find what I am looking for; after all, why be stuck with such a limited selection? Although the recommendation system is in place, and it has been on most accounts a successful addition, it does not replace or neutralise the effectiveness of the front page and the search pages. In fact, I would argue that it encourages users to search for new comics, and reminds users that there are comics out there they have never seen, and that could potentially appeal to them. Ignoring this, I also believe your assumptions are based on how popular the recommendation seems to be on the forums, forgetting that the active user-base of Smackjeeves would be well over 5000, and only a minuscule portion of those people use the forums regularly --some having never even visited once. Although I concur to a degree that the recommendations might stop a user from going to the front page once, after seeing all the system has to offer, and viewing the most appealing of the platter, I believe that users would be forced back to the searches and, inevitably, the front page.
In addition to this, I'd argue that you are also vastly exaggerating the value of the front page in promoting your comic. I can legitimately say that in the last 5 months I have not received a single page-load directly from the homepage. The truth is, most people barely even look at the Smackjeeves Main page, just as much as they generally ignore the News Page of comics. This is because most users know the menus, and navigate only where they need to be. During average activity, when uploading a comic or doing some other specific action, users do not go and search for new comics. As a hub, it's a brilliant system, but that someone may open the main page at the exact second you upload, peruse the banners, and decide to actually go to your site is about as likely as any other form of Smackjeeves promotion --including the Self Promotion board which arguably offers the exact same service.
I understand your position, but I believe you are simply overestimating how important the homepage is to your promotion, and in turn vastly overestimating how much of an impact the recommendation system will have on people viewing unknown comics. People will always look to the search filters, the self promotion boards, forum signatures and yes, even the front page for new comics, whether a recommendation system is there or not.
Cropcircledesigner wrote:Promote how? xD
Not many people look at the self-promotion board, and not everyone wants to pay for attention (though I'll probably donate to SJ when I'm not saving my money for London). Now that less people look at the front page (or maybe that's just a trend- iunno) I'm not really sure how someone's supposed to get new readers (fans) if they don't have any/much. I'm not talking about myself in particular... I'm just curious here.
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